900 pages!! Good lord! Thank you for reading! Just another reminder that I'll be at TCAF this weekend, so come by! Toronto bound in 2 days and counting. *__*
188 thoughts on “#900 + 901 – the weather has mostly held out”
YEEES EVE GO
Always trust the thumbs of the inner iguana.
People speak of the "lizard brain" in derogatory terms, but sometimes a gross bug just needs to get killed.
I was wondering what that phrase meant…
I was hoping it wasn't an insult to Iguanas. They are pretty cool creatures.
According to Urban Dictionary, it means "that part of the brain that senses danger, where instincts and gut feelings originate; primal thoughts; subconscious or involuntary processes; the amygdala." So the lizard giving her the thumbs up is just… perfect. I appreciate the imagery used here 😀
To be pedantic – it's a great visual on Meredith's part, but actually 'lizard brain' isn't the thing at work here. LB is the very physical, immediate 'fight-flight-fuck' part of the brain. Conversely, the part that's all about nuanced and complicated interpersonal/social interactions is often called the 'monkey brain'. That's the part of Eve's mind that's feeling abused, and making her throw her drink (aka ersatz poo) at Park. (Yes poo – there's a reason we use scatalogical words as swears – it's a compromise between satisfying our monkey brains and not having everyone always sick with dysentery, typhus, ad nauseum).
oh boy oh boy oh boy! aww yiiissssss iguana of 'fuk dis shit' callin the shots.
Oh no, Eve
YESSSS FUCK YOU PARK
That is a super gorgeous lizard and I want my brain to be full of beautiful lizards now even though everything about that plan is super terrible.
WTF GWEN?! WTF.
I don't know how but the iguana perfectly captures that feeling directly preceding a drink in the face.
YEEEEES ! This fucking bastard got what he deserve !! How this dick can push the blade in the heart of this poor Eve ! Go to hell park ! hope you got burn by the iodine.
Man, Park, I know from your perspective you were just visiting an old friend who happened to be an ex.
But tact, man, tact.
After sex? That's not a friendly visit.
Actually that sounds like a very friendly visit.
Sad thing is, from his perspective, he might've been trying to diffuse the whole "You weren't invited to a wedding" thing. "Hey, I could've been doing these things with these other people, but I turned them down! Didn't turn you down, though!"
Then suddenly, DRINK TO THE FACE.
Yes, but if he had glanced up from his phone even once, he would have seen that Eve's eyes were full of tears and realized his dismissive blah-blah wasn't helping.
Sure, he was being cluelessly tactless, but hey, responding to tonedeaf words with something physical like that is kinda not cool (in any context I can think of). It's weird to me that people are cheering it on here in the comments.
Part of it is that comics (and art generally) work by taking emotional experiences and hyperbolizing and physicalizing them to express them more intensely; people cheer throwing-a-drink-in-a-comic because it has the same "feel" as landing a perfect comeback in real life (whereas all dialogue sounds pretty cool in a scripted artifact so just a cool line might not be so striking without the extra expressive form). That sort of figurative nature of events probably goes double for a comic in which the feeling of "becoming that person who has a car as the sole way people interact with me" is represented by someone becoming a car with boobs.
Have you ever had a guy that you once felt you were in love with show up randomly back in your life, sleep with you, and then you casually find out the same day (from him) that you weren't his first choice of company?
I hate that I have experienced almost this exact situation and I didn't retaliate with anything stronger than crying when I was alone. It's been almost 10 years and it still bothers me.
A drink to the face isn't a punch or a slap. I'm totally OK with it.
Yeah the whole thing struck me a guy who didn't realize how shitty he was sounding. Like, look at all these people who want my time and I'm here with you!
But all Eve heard was "You're an afterthought to those who you used to care about a lot."
Ok, but does your friend still have those tickets? Cause I'll take them
You won't be an ocean away, you'll only be a bathroom away
The sword has been drawn! Lorena Bobbitt time!
Dude, ew. Lol.
Park's "you know how it is in New York" is a fascinating line in the context of this comic. Like, all throughout octopus pie we see this group of people learning about what it means to grow up, and treat each other better, and try to fit human connections in their "scattered, unreasonable life[s]", and Park, who doesn't even frickin' live in New York, is using a stereotype about the city as an offensive bromide… it makes him seem so obnoxious.
Also, I love that lizard.
Park grew up in New York.
I know. That's true. But that almost makes it worse–he should know better. It's not New York that causes someone to play lightly with other people's feelings.
10/10, best single observation about this comic in the comments section so far
I somehow skipped the page where they fugged and that turned my first impression of this page from Park being tactless to Park being T A C T L E S S, W O A H.
Hahaha yeah that's pretty important contextual information for this drink to the face. It would seem a lot less legit without that. 😛
Yeah, without the sex this situation could be Eve getting all excited about Park coming back and then finding out that she was just somebody that he used to know. With the sex, Park is being a complete shitheel.
WELL! Now we know. Not great times. Seems there's a much bigger problem here then just Park too.
One solution though: Go full lizard brain.
They got drinks. Park got two, but, let's be honest, he really needed that second one.
I think that lizard is my spirit animal.
…Which explains a lot about my life.
*takes a deep breath, steadies myself*
SLAY BITCH SLAYYYYYY
This is the best she could do. Not reacting = unfair on her; shouting/yelling, = not cool. But the in-your-face drink originated for situations such as these. It's like a classy slap.
And you know, I was wondering about Eve's choice of drink. A lack of ice in it is definitely a plus.
I'm imagining it to be some kind of fruit-flavoured thing that ends with "-tini." Dunno why, probably the colour.
good job, eve
Can I get a quick reminder on who Gwen is?
I think Gwen is the girl in Park and Eve's group of friends that was dating the guy who ran Laser Tag?
Unless I'm mistaken, Gwen is one of Eve's old "nerd" friends introduced here: http://www.octopuspie.com/2008-05-05/140-park/
She's Eve's and Park's friend from way back. I hope she married John from the Funplex. http://www.octopuspie.com/2010-04-14/369-the-doom…
Awesome, thank you!
he's the bomb at moon checkers
FINALLY! Go EVE!
Ning used Punch-in-da-face!
It's super effective!
The crowd fainted!
Park: Smug and Smug Can Be.
Eve, you're gunna go home, write a sad poem in your journal, and move on.
Poor Eve, I was reading some of the old comics (pre-2008) to get a sense of the Park / Eve dynamic as well as her other Asian crew friendships. It's a shame that she wasn't even aware of Gwen's wedding but that just points to how far away she's drifted from that part of her life. Aside from a few cameos it's basically been the Hannah, Mar, and Jane show for like 4+ years- if she had even kept up the veneer of a living friendship with Gwen she presumably would have been invited to the "really small" wedding. I really liked Eve's progression of reactions from panels 3 to 9 and the underlying thought process that must have run through her head..
Best "lizard brain" representation ever.
I feel like Park doesn't mean all that blabbering in a bad way, but I know what he means pretty much matters diddly squat right now.
It's not that Park is being overtly cruel. It's that he doesn't think much of Eve at all. He doesn't care, though he doesn't necessarily hate her or dislike her. He is just apathetic to her except as it pertains to him getting something out of her. Eve doesn't matter to park except in an offhand, side-note kind of way.
That's the kind of soft-spoken, polite cruelty that gets a drink thrown in a face.
Park woke the dragon.
More like iguana, but YEAH >:]
Y'know, I thought Eve was gonna shank a dude with the little plastic sword.
This works, though.
I loved how the sword became prominent in the drink just before she threw it – she needed something to fight back with, and the drink presented itself to her as her metaphorical weapon. Beautiful!
Oh lord. Park almost went to A Gloryhole Hamilton.
I love that Park does not see anything wrong with sneaking into a play, let alone watching from the bathroom.
Well, he talks about how expensive it is, so clearly its a thing and people are monetizing this bathroom.
I mostly just wanted to say 'gloryhole hamilton'
Gives a whole new meaning to "Satisfied", doesn't it?
and I love you for it
I think it was meant to be a facetious way of referring to really shitty tickets.
Considering this comic once had a bit character who was majoring in Meme Studies, I think this is a joke for us but a reality for Park.
Fuck that, he doesn't deserve to be in the same ZIP code as Lin-Manuel Miranda
I thought I wanted this, and it's cool that Park got a drink thrown in his face, but Eve is sad and that makes me sad. :c
Maybe this is a reflection on the demographic of the comic, but can somebody remind me why everybody hates Park, again?
Way to go, Eve! Mess him up. Mess him up, Good!
I love how Eve's "lizard mind", says to her: Yep. Do it!
If you're going to dump on a woman in public, don't go to a place where they put little swords in the drinks. It inspires her…
"a woman" ? You think the kind of impulsive aggression involved in drink-tossing belongs to women?
this comment is full of really loathsome micro-aggressions, and I really hope that you'll evaluate that.