#460 – internship

April 21st, 2011

#460 – internship

The original page of this comic is for sale!

I’m pleased to say that thanks to everyone who pre-ordered Listen At Home With Octopus Pie, I now have the funds to get the book printed. Thanks so much for your help everyone! I knew we could get this book made fast.

Of course I’m just now breaking even, so pre-ordering your copy will still be a big help! To take advantage of the pre-order (which includes a free signature on standard editions, plus a gift) be sure to order by April 30th.


Discussion (31)¬

  1. @D_Alfo says:

    Hahahahahahahahahah, oh man. Been there.

  2. Name says:

    Can't wait until I can afford to pre-order! Although by then it might not be a pre-order any more.

  3. Kevina says:

    Haha, oh noooooo. My first thought after Eve mentioned that she left the NY Times on his desk was that someone would have had to teach him how to read first. I say we find that insidious bugger and draw and quarter 'em.

  4. @Minivet says:

    Oh, man. I don't know if this was intended, but my first reading of panel 5 was as a reference to the recent NYT articles on the illegal of internships as a source of free scut labor (recent one at http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/opinion/03perli… older one at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/business/03inte… – as in, Olly read about this horrible, abusive practice and thought, "Hey! Free labor!"

    • Elliott says:

      didn't know about those articles, but i'm pretty sure that's what was intended!

    • granulac says:

      I hadn't read that particular article, but the NYT has been talking about internships with this concerned tone for a while. It seems like it's on a lot of people's minds right now!

  5. Josh says:

    Your hand-lettering is already getting clearer and more defined. Way to go.

  6. Garfunkel says:

    How does a woman Julie's age not know the sorrows of interning? LOOK OUT, WOMAN.

  7. Oohhh MAN… SO been staring this one down. I am as of june, 31 frakkin' years and three recessions deep as a Creative Pro, and I have never seen a creative marketplace as toxic as it is not. The NUMBER ONE entry level position for Junior designers, or "production assoiciates" in the current market is … INTERN. And they want expert level skills and 2-5 years experience!

    Interning was supposed to be the job you had in the summer break to get some real-world experience. Now it's your first TWO full time jobs out of school. Imagine hitting the street with your shiny new BFA, and working eight to twelve hours a day for NOTHING, then dashing to the 2nd gig at K-mart, McDonalds or the waitress thing, then crawling into your sixth floor walk up in Chelsea you share with three psycho roommates for a shower and a nap before doing it all again the next day, while you carry $150,000 in student loans.

    When the Studio has been busy, I am asked by colleagues why I don't take in an intern to pick up some of the load. I won't do it. I won't participate in the brutal exploitation. I'd rather farm out or turn down work than take part in this system.

    Run Julie, RUN LIKE HELL!

    • Sarah says:

      frakkin! Yay BSG love!! <3

    • stjason says:

      There are internships and internships. You can tell the difference between them really simply: One will pay. I don't mind doing the scut work. Data entry and phones and dealing with customers and even pushing a broom. But if I'm going to spend 4, 5 (8?) hours a day there, I should get something for it…

      And yes, I have a few applications out for internships right now. And I have seen those internships asking for a couple of years of experience, too. That is incredible.

    • jimmy says:

      It's not just BFAs, either. I'm about to graduate from law school staring down the barrel of the same thing. You're a good person for not buying into this evisceration of the minimum wage laws.

    • Mel says:

      you're telling me. I left the creative/art world a few years back because of this. Even my last place I worked recently, in cooking of all things, had 5 "co-op students" rather than giving the paid people real hours. Oh my god.

    • Elle says:

      I PAID for my internship. I even choose my masters because they would set it up. The only consolation is that I'm actually being trained to use equipment and I'm not doing grunt labor.

    • granulac says:

      great post!

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  9. Bruce the Great says:

    Panel 4 Eve so cute!

  10. Sebastian says:

    I didn't see this coming either! You've done it again.

  11. lil says:

    "It might lead to something." Oh Julie, Ollie would choose YOU to pull this on.

  12. Damien Walder says:

    Gah…where did I hide my credit card? Pre-order calling my name…
    Hey – were the buddies who Will let persish in a kind of internship as well?
    Things are looking worse and worse for Julie!

  13. matt w says:

    Wow. Olly is officially the most evil character in webcomics.

  14. Arkadi says:

    Oh, for… Just how OLD is Julie? How can she be so naïve?????

  15. Leo says:

    if its anything like my internship at a skateboarding company, it'll involve 12 hour days plus 3 hours driving, and no job once its done. Internships are scams.

  16. Mayday says:

    Julie you poor sweet soul :'D

  17. chris says:

    Ahaha, I laughed out loud. Internships: great on paper, not so much in practice.

  18. internship_union says:

    Internships like that one are for chumps. And for scabs. Please, Julie, tell that guy to put his slave labor up his organic a-hole!

  19. Professional Mole says:

    "Who told Olly what an intern is?" GOLD! RIGHT HERE!

  20. joey says:

    soo excited about your second book! i hope the printing goes well

  21. Patricia says:

    I'm really hoping this arc ends with Ollie getting a beatdown. I've seen kids sewing shoes in factories get more benefits than Ollie's Organix employees.