#690 + 691 – it’s so okay

Hey, I'm back from Comic Con! I had a delightful time seeing everyone. Sorry if I was quiet or missing when you came around the booth - I fell victim to a case of Con Crud, and was under the weather most of the weekend. Regardless, I have a lot of great memories and minimal redeye hangover. The Patreon campaign continues to climb steadily! We're getting closer to our goal of making Octopus Pie in full color! But there's still a ways to go - consider pledging if you haven't!

90 thoughts on “#690 + 691 – it’s so okay

  1. About damn time! He he!

  2. I'll fight anyone who say this comic doesn't rule

    1. It doesn’t rule. As far as I know Will hasn’t exactly talked about his relationship with Aimee. Every single kiss, every single fuck, everything with him is on the edge of cheating and he’s never doing this when he just has his shit together.

      He just got off the phone with a girl who’s genuinely concerned for him and wants to be there for him. What the hell, Will.

    2. I'll be proud of you from 50 feet away. Silently. And totally having nothing to do with you.

  3. *ahem*

    OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGFUCKINGFINALLYAHHHHHGGGHHHHHHHH

    1. LITERALLY

    2. Heh, because my computer cuts off the ends of the comments, it looks like this is going on into eternity (as it fricking should be, oh my god)

  4. I’m not sure if I want to die laughing or die from surprise.

    Is Eve drunk or just mad horny?

    1. Probably a bit of both.

  5. The pounding heart is such a great touch here omg

  6. What the heck is up with Eve? She's been so…spastic…lately.

      1. That's not really what I meant. She's just been so wide-eyed and almost randomly screaming whatever it is she's thinking. Just seems odd.

      2. The update before this one is what I'm talking about. She just seems to scream what she's thinking at inappropriate times.

        1. I think she's being overworked, plus everything's changing about her friend group, and pretty much she's just been under so much stress and sleeplessness for so long that something in her broke, and that accidentally fixed something.

  7. panel 6 and 8 are so sexy

    also i thought I missed a comic because I didn't anticipate this happening

    1. What about panels 9 + 10? doesn't that bug eyed flailing just turn you on?

    2. I also thought I had missed a comic!

  8. OMG Eve's backwards mutant horny couch face… Meredith you are a true artiste.

  9. Hahahaha, this was FANTASTIC. Thank you Meredith, OP remains a highly of my literary life.

  10. Did you know thatwatching Dogs peeing on Coconuts is both Will and Eve's fetish? That was like Foreplay for them.

  11. I want to be happy but Eve is so out of character (for a reason we'll hopefully find out soon….) and Will is cheating….my ship is finally happening and I feel sad and guilty…why did you do this Meredith

    1. Welcome to Octopus Pie, where everything is complicated and cartoons are more real than real life.

    2. Eve's character has been slowly yet gradually changing as time has gone on, and seeing as the last dude she banged didn't even need to be on a first name basis with her, it's not out of character in my opinion. Eve is a floozy at this point, although I'm sure Meredith has a reason for that. And yes, Will is cheating, although at this point that's not too surprising either because he hasn't really been shown to be too dedicated to anybody he's dated so far in the comic. I agree in that I don't personally like these decisions Will and Eve are making, but then again I'm some guy on the internet, so. You know. I'm not really a factor here.

      1. Will and Aimee aren't in a monogamous relationship.
        http://www.octopuspie.com/2013-03-27/592-an-unwri

      2. lol "floozy"

        god forbid a woman in her 20s have some casual sex

      3. Yo man. Eve has had some sex, but I don't think you should use the term floozy. Floozy is a sexist term. There isn't a version of it for men, and one could question why it has to exist at all.

        1. You're right about there not being enough male equivalents. From now on I will refer to sexually promiscuous men as "Blundos" or "Heffis". Evens the playing field a little bit.

        2. That actually isn't how it works, though. Judging Eve as a floozy for a single one-night stand is kind of shitty. You're saying that her entire character is defined by a single time she had sex.
          I'm pretty sure you wouldn't refer to a man who had had a one-night stand as a Blundo or Heffi.

          Also, I'm not saying that we need a 'male equivalent'. I'm pointing out that floozy is a judgemental term laden with guilt & shame. Men are celebrated for sexual prowess, women are chastised.

          Seriously, it's not cool.

        3. In Sicily they have 'apopo' which means he-goat. English can be so strangely inadequate at times.

        4. Right, and in Sicily, apopo is pretty much congratulatory. Whereas floozy is shameful.

          It's not actually egalitarian; men are celebrated when we do it with lots of women. Women are shamed for having even a single one-night stand. It's a double standard in almost every culture on Earth.

        5. Yes! I'm pretty sure we are all agreeing, dude.

    3. I don't think she is out of character. Eve is complex, she has conflicting desires & ideas. She's decided to 'just go with it' in more things, as she has slowly seen how her friends perfect lives actually have problems & aren't so perfect.

  12. Will is so cute! This means so much to him :')

  13. 10/10 dialogue and facial expressions

  14. Will nooooo, Aimee loves you so much Will ;-;

  15. Nicodemus Jancewicz

    This hits so close to home for me!! Argh!!! I love it!!

  16. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    yes.

  17. Anyone confused about Eve's character arc?
    http://www.octopuspie.com/2007-05-28/007-manuel/

    Here you go, strip number 7.

    1. the point is that shes progressing, growing, changing.

    2. So- she's infected with a brain worm that's transmitted by cat vomit, and is slowly changing her personality as it eats away at her cerebrum?

  18. Yes! No! This is confusing!!!

  19. It was so great meeting you at the Con! And yay Eve and Will <3

    1. nice meeting you too, Robyn!!

  20. While I was a little thrown by weird bug-eyed eve in panels 9 and 10, I reasoned that it's probably because she's known Will for a pretty long time now, and the whole will-they-won't-they vibe they've shared since forever probably makes her feel okay being a little spastic; like, I don't know, everyone acts goofy round people they've known forever right? This isn't an 'omg be cool what will he *think*' kind of thing
    This makes me happy but also fills me with a sense of foreboding. Think of the Aimee, Will!

  21. as an aimee fan I'm just disappointed.

    1. As an Aimee fan, I don't care! They aren't monogamous and what they have seems to be petering out anyway! And it's okay for that to happen!

  22. I've been The Other Guy once.
    This is a profoundly feel-bad strip for me.
    blerghlrgehglghglhglh

  23. and only now do I go back and re-read this whole arc, realizing that Will's had that bruise on his face the whole time.

    MEREDITH WHY ARE YOU SO GODLIKE, YOU MAKE ME REREAD YOUR COMIC LIKE 5 TIMES

  24. I'm confused – Eve is sending mixed messages. What is it that she wants?

  25. Wow, I don't remember Will and Eve actually having sex.

    1. They almost did, and then Eve decided she wasn't feeling it yet, and then Hanna outed will as a weed dealer and Eve dumped him.

      The fandom has had blue balls ever since.

      1. SO TRUE

  26. lol oh man as much as I want them together, they both need stability in their love lives and they're not going to get that with each other right now.

  27. Ah, the thumping of the Tell Tale Heart.

  28. Hooray, Eve!

    Maybe boo a little, Will.

    And honestly, I think part of why Eve has been different in this arc is that the story is being told from Will's point of view. And part of that is because now he's the one obsessively in his head, while Eve is managing to relax a little more.

    1. Oh come on! "Boo Will"? He looked himself straight in the eye and said "okay"! He passed the final test! If anyone should be booed, it's definitely not Will. No one should be booed for this. This is unbooable.

      Well, I might boo a little at myself for not having the money to buy the original art. 400$, damn.

  29. is it odd that horny eve is the most adorable thing ive seen in the internet?

  30. Dammit, Will, you're going to end up hurting both of them…

  31. Heh I guess he just didn't have the WILLpower to keep himself from Eve- *is banned forever*

    Ok ok seriously though. When Eve asked 'This ok?' I wanted to sort of cry. I think that's what made Will need to run to the bathroom and stop his head from spinning for a second. And now that he's looked himself in the eye.. I wonder what will happen? They both obviously want to, but.. Is it REALLY ok? "WILL" find out next time! HAH- *is actually banned forever*

    1. actually I wish there was a way to promote you.

  32. I don't think this is out of character for Eve at all, she's been goofier lately in general. I like that these scene isn't taking itself too seriously — it seems more realistic than intense stares and other clichéd romance tropes.

  33. Will's got to look in a mirror to think it over.

  34. Will isn’t cheating on Aimee in the normal way, bc they are in an open relationship.

    It might end up being emotional cheating, bc Will obviously has strong feelings toward Eve.

    And I agree, eve is cartoonish bc we’re in Will’s head rn.

    1. Are they in an open relationship? I don't remember that.

  35. Obvious model for (Will's perception of) sex-demanding Eve: Cookie Monster

  36. awwwwwww yeah time for the happenings

  37. YES YES YES BUT NO NO NO THIS IS NOT GOING TO END WELL ENDLESS SCREEEECHING

  38. Eve is friggin fantastic in this. So ridiculous.

  39. Dang, Eve, those are some pretty mixed signals there.

    1. where?

      1. It was a joke, I'm pretty sure.

  40. Poor Aimee, she stands no chance against the main character. I kinda knew it was going to swing back to Eve and Will somehow, though. Just the way it was so brief before.

  41. And she even stopped to check for consent.
    Perfect. 🙂

  42. FRIENDS WHO BONED TWICE

  43. I think this is very much eve, she has grown a lot in the last few years, she is no longer the surly hard ass, that's why she called Will in the first place. The reason they didn't work is because their worlds were so opposite, their views so different. Now that she has grown as person, she's not so serious, she more carefree and lives in the moment instead of in her head.
    <3 I love this eve. I love learning and growing with her. Even feeling her embarassing moments like these. <3

    1. She’s changed a lot, and I’m not thrown by this like some of the other commenters, but I’m not sure the lightening up is a totally positive thing? Not bad as a general, but there seems to be a desperate or forced or depressed edge to it. I think it’s a reaction to previously solid things around her (Hannah and Marek, the store) breaking apart, so it makes me a little nervous for what it ultimately means for Eve.

  44. Is that a boner? or are Will's pants just unzipped? or both?

  45. I think this could still go both ways. there's plenty of chances for it to be a big dramatic blowout between Eve, Will, friends and Aimee. And there's plenty of chance of it being the kind of thing that ends with a whimper, not a bang. And there's even a chance of the two of them like bein' happy together or whatever….or who am i kidding, this is Octopus Pie. <3 I feel like, if nothing else, it's gotta at least be a long and interesting relationship arc this time, since we never got our Eve & Will fix previously. (Maybe this is only me. hmm.)

    Also, this totally makes sense with Eve's current behavior. When she's accepted a situation, she's usually pretty zany. Comics like this one http://www.octopuspie.com/2014-02-09/639-flawless… …..or especially this one http://www.octopuspie.com/2014-04-14/656-thats-to… (a joke that Eve from the first few arcs would have never, never NEVER made, ever) show her weird, zany, ridiculous side. it's a coping mechanism. and it's working better for her than just plain being pissed all the time.

  46. ._.
    What?
    ._.
    Oh.

  47. I guess we've established that Aimee and Will are casual/non-monogamous so maybe Aimee won't be too hurt by this, but I've just thought -does Eve know about the thing with Aimee at all at this stage? Or is that going to be a fun surprise for her later on? I know she's a lot more laid back now but this is the kind of thing that can knock you off course somewhat.

    1. He talks about it with Hanna while Eve is "sleeping" on the couch
      http://www.octopuspie.com/2013-03-29/593-dick-pul

  48. I don't want to ruin this miraculous moment, but when did Aimee say she was coming down? Sunday?

    I don't know what day it is as of this comic, but if it's a Saturday night, there might be someone walking in on something in the morning, if not earlier… Aimee did ask Will to go get into trouble..

    or maybe she meant next Sunday. Meh.

    1. I forgot to add, my theory is mostly based on the fact that the door has been left open…

  49. i think they've both grown as people so much that it's finally okay or time for them to try things out with their new perspectives and abilities to take things as they come. i'm really happy. and they're so truthful, all your characters are such real, well-fleshed-out people. It's really impressive and beautiful to be taking in. thanks for your work.

  50. ohhhhh myyyyy goooddd, this is probably one of my favorite panels of all time

  51. Panel 6. Eve looks every bit as sexy as Jane or Aimee right there. She just needs to get it right.

  52. This just makes me feel so much, the pounding of his heart really broke me.

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